Our League of Nations

Jewish homeland location

  • Jewish Oblast Russia

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • part of Manchuria

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Kimberley Northwest Australia

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Madagascar

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Kenya

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Argentinia

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Guyana

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ethiopia/ Somaliland

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Sinai

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Israel Transjordania Palestina

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • former Turkish Anatolia/ Italian LON territory

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Cyprus

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Macedonia/ Thessalia

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Azerbaijan

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pale (Poland Lithuania White Russia)

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Sitka US Alaska or Western Canada

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • Caribbean Island

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Alsace-Lorraine

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • somewhere on the Arabian Peninsula

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
White Mongolia and Shandong, China in tight spot
White Mongolia and Shandong, China in tight spot:
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White Russian Baron R. F. von Ungern-Sternberg was accepted and recognized by most foreign powers and the League of Nations as the sole representative of Mongolia, much to his own surprise too. His White Russian, Mongol and even partly Chinese forces, cemented the monarhy of Bogd Khan in the now legitimate government of Mongolia. They seperated themselves from the Pan Mongolist Inner Mongolian Prince Fushenge, who later fell under Chinese rule again. Ungern-Sternberg's forces meanwhile annexed Tannu Uriankhai (Tuva) into White Mongolia. This strategy to not provoke China to much with possible plans of annexing Inner Mongolia earned Ungern-Sternberg and Bogd Khan the respect and later diplomatic recognition of White Mongolian independence by the Chinese. Relations between White Outer Monglians and Chinese, Pan-Mongolian or Pro-Japanese turned cold because of this. The Beiyang government quickly saw Bogd Khan/ Ungern-Sternberg' government in Ikh Khüree as a posible helpful buffer state and ally in the north, as fear of Soviet and Communist spillovers from the Russian Civil War grew that could overtrow their own government with their ideology too. The Chinese Government in Beijing was also in fear of more Japanese demands, since the nagotiation in Shandong/Shantung had allowed Japan special mining and zransportation rights, similar to Southern Mongolia.
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Compared to the Japanese demands and plans to turn China into a Japanese Colony, Ungern-Sternberg White Russia in the north was a far lesser evil, as he had shown not to expand into Inner Mongolia, to increase his rule into the remaining Chinese state itself. But the ongoing Russian Civil War so close to the Chinese border they feared that the Red Army's Communist forces might attack them soon too. To prevent them from spreading their revolution, Ungern-Sternberg and supporting Chinese and Japanese forces invaded Siberia to support anti-Bolshevik rebellions and also fight against the remaining Red Army-Mongolian partisan that invaded White Mongolia constantly. So these counterrevolutionary forces attacked into Siberia, giving the White Forces there time to breath. But in Novonikolaevsk, Ungern-Sternberg was taken prisoner by the Red Army and some wanted to trial him for counterrevolution. But the protest notes from White Mongolia and China ensured that he was set free.
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Ungern-Sternberg returned to White Mongolia in exchange for it's and China's neutrality in the ongoing Russian Civil War. The recognition of White Mongolia by the Lague of Nations and it's neighbors later also prevented Soviet and Mongolian People's Republic forces from attacking the nation from siberia once again in fear of a new escalation in Siberia/Mongolia and a all-open League of Nation intervention like in Turkey. And so Soviet involvement in Mongolia and China was prevented, with the exception of a few rebells and revolts. The Communist Party of Chinese and it's military branch, the Chinese Workers' and Peasants' Red Army never gained whide spread support among the Chinese peasents and workers, but other revolutionary ideas soon engulfed China in it's very own internaldispute and Civil War. The world and the League of Nations meanwhile shifted their attention westwards, were the Irish War of Independence tested the United Kingdom and Spain an France fought the Rif War in Marocco.
 
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The mad baron strikes again.

Make Mongolia khanate again.

We will tear the great, great wall and make the Chinese do it, mark my words.

We're rounding 'em up in a very humane way, in a very nice way. And they're going to be happy because they want to be legalized. And, by the way, I know it doesn't sound nice. But not everything is nice. (this is full quote I change nothing)

Trump meme still funny, please end my suffering.
 
Occupation of the Rhineland and German Hyperinflation
Occupation of the Rhineland and German Hyperinflation:
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The former Prussian/ German Rhineland was occupied after the Armistice with Germany on November 1918. The occupation armies consisted of American, Belgian, British and French forces, while German troops were banned from all territory west of the Rhine and within 50 kilometers east of the Rhine under the Treaty of Versailles. With massive French pressure, the Saar was separated from the Rhine Province and administered by the League of Nations in 1920. A plebiscite about the future of the Saar Region was planned for 1935. Eupen and Malmedy were at the same time transferred to Belgium. Only a short time later, the French completely occupied the Rhineland, as the Germans were not paying their reparations like planned. France now controlled all important industrial areas of the region to gain ressources and money from it, since the German hyperinflation made the little reparations paid by Germany totally worthless. The Hyperinflation of the German Papiermark, the Weimar Republic's currency started in 1921 and looked worse every month, then every week and day. It also caused political unstability within Germany and many of the former Entente Nations, the occupation Nations in the Rhineland and the League of Nations were unsure if Germany would be able to repay the reparations any time at all. This problematic situation caused tensions, not only in Germany, but also in France and Belgium, who were devastated during the Great War by the German Army. To end the crisis quickly, the different occupation Nations, suggested a bunch of very different ideas and plans how the situation could be fixed.
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The American Plan suggested that the German Economy could best regain it's strenght if foreign powers would invest in Germany and thereby give the needed impulses to push it's economy on a healthy path again.

The Belgian Plan played with the Idea that the Nations that had suffered most in the Great War (Belgium and France) should directly occupy the Rhineland and gain every profit made in the region for themselves, for as long, untill all German reparations had been paid.

The British Plan hoped to gain a common ground and not to weaken Germany too much, as this would mean a to strong French State on the Continent. So Britain supported the Idea to give Germany more time, until it was able to stabilize it's economy and repay it's reparations.

The French Plan meanwhile suggested, that the whole Rhineland would become a own independent state, a Mandate of the League of Nations, either under direct French, Belgian-French or combined Allied-Entente controll.
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All of these ideas were puright rejected by the German Government, as the German Weimar Republic, had no saying in the decision and wasn't even invited to the conference that would seal the Fate of the Rhineland. While this was humiliating, it was better then the alternative, total occupation by the Allied-Entente and the League of Nations, so the German Government protested and even called for a full Rhineland Strike, but did not dare to do more. With fear and mixed anticipation the German Public and the whole German State and Government waited patiently for the final decision made by the League of Nation reguarding the Future of the Rhineland. But not only Germany was nervous, the Allied-Entente Nations/ Occupation Nations looked at the outcome of the vote nearly as nervous and interested, then the Germans themselves.


Vote here.
 
I don't think the allies understand that when a currency is in hyperinflation there are more pressing matters than their precious money :noexpression:
Hyperinflation actually let Germany inflate away a lot of its public debt to domestic creditors. There's some evidence that they also delayed reforms to their tax system in order to avoid reparations.
 
I don't think the allies understand that when a currency is in hyperinflation there are more pressing matters than their precious money :noexpression:
Well France and Belgium were devastated by the German Army quiet heavily, so most people there are not very forgiving right now.
Hyperinflation actually let Germany inflate away a lot of its public debt to domestic creditors. There's some evidence that they also delayed reforms to their tax system in order to avoid reparations.
That is so true.
 

Ramontxo

Donor
Yes to practice scorched earth policy in another country lands is not the best way to win that other country good will...
 
The Irish Free State
The Irish Free State:
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The young German Republic was quit glad that the American and British plans had been approved by the League of Nations, not only giving their state more time to repay it's reparations, but also help their Economy doing so. The agreement also divided the former Entente Powers alongside the Anglo-Nations (the United States of America and the British Empire) who saw it as a good outcome that the Germans could restart to pay their reperations once again and the Belgian and French on the other hand, who would have prepared a continued Occupation of the Rhineland, or even a independent Rhineland Mandate as a additional buffer state between them and a then even much more weakened German rump state. The World meanwhile and the League of Nations turned their attention to another part of Europe, the British Isles, were the Irish Free State had just declared itself a independent nation and was no longer a part of the United Kingdom. But the fact that the Protestant North had remained under British rule and was split off from the Catholic South of Ireland had lead to some tensions after the Irish War of Independence from 1919 to 1921. Much to the surprise of the English State and the rest of the British Empire however, the young Irish State turned into a Irish Civil War over the matter that their most northern part of the Island had been split up and had not been reunited with the whole Irish Isle. When the Irish Civil War ended after nearly a year from 1922 to 1923, the young Irish Government stunned the world with a daring move that no state would have suspected; they called for the League of Nations, who had just proven themselves to stand up against the Turkish agression and violation of the Threaty of Versailles. So the Irish People called for the reunification of their Island once again, but they did not aks the British Crown or England, but the League of Nations. England was shocked, outraged and denied any right of the League of Nations to have a saying in the matter of their own territorial integrity. Franche in huge British debt quickly joined the British Position and wished for Britain as the major global Power to remain inside the League of Nations, no matter what the outcome of the vote would be. At the same time, many French hoped that Britain would obay whatever the League of Nations would deside to not show the world that powerfull nations could and would simply ignore the League whenever they wished to do so. That would clearly undermine the very purpose and reason for the League's creation in the first place. At the same time many Americans of Irish descent supported the Irish plan, even if the American government itself was officially neutral and wished the British nothing bad.
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Vote for the Fate of Ireland
 
damnit this was a really tough choice but i hope that things go well this time so lets hope that it works out reasonably well
 
I've voted. Frankly, I don't think there is any best option with Ireland.

I'm a little surprised there wasn't a "Four Counties, instead of Six" option in the vote.
 
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