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Transformers: The Movies: 2007-2017
Transformers: The Movies
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Optimus Prime and Bumblebee on Cybertron in the First Film.

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Director Stephen Spielberg with an early design for Optimus Prime on the set.

Transformers(2007)

Don Murphy stepped in to produce a G.I.Joe film Adaptation. Hasbro, at the same time asked TomDeSanto, a fan of the Transformers franchise, to adapt the series to film. Simon Furman and several fo the creators of Generation 1 were brought in. The Creation Matrix was made the Macguffin of the film, and a human perspective was created for the audience. The tone was made similar to a disaster film. The Autobots featured were Optimus Prime, Ironhide, Jazz, Prowl, Arcee(Not female ITTL), Ratchet, Wheeljack, and Bumblebee. The Decepticons includes were Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak, Rumble, Skywarp and Shockwave.

Steven Spielberg, a fan of the comics and toys, became the executive producer in 2004. John Rogers wrote the first Script, which put 4 Autobots against 4 Decepticons. This also included the Ark Spaceship and prologue on Cybertron, the prologue ending with the Ark crashing onto Earth. Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman were hired to rewrite the script. They were fans of the Cartoon. Spielberg suggested the story start being about "a boy and his Car." This led to the creation of the characters of Sam and Mikaela. Originally the robots didn't talk but this was changed. Because of fear it looked bad, Optimus Prime never spoke without his mouth covered. A battle at the Grand Canyon was added. Spielberg gave regular notes for improvement. To hide the film's process, the title The Prime Directive was used. Spielberg asked Michael Bay to direct but he refused, calling the film a "Stupid toy movie". Spielberg looked for other Directors before choosing to take up the project himself.

The Transformers in the film are capable of Double-shifting as Soundwave does in the film. The character of "Fig" does not exist due to less focus on the military. Spielberg changed Sam and Mikaela into kids, removing the OTL romantic relationship into more of a small crush without any sexualization. The film implies it will end with Optimus Prime and Megatron dying, but Optimus Prime is saved and Megatron dies, being killed by Bumblebee in order to save Prime. The film was set in the 1980's with very faithful to the cartoon designs.

Transformers 2(2009)
Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman returned to write the second film Transformers 2. Ehren Kruger was hired as a screenwriter due to his encyclopedic knowledge of the Transformers mythology. The script followed the Autobots lives on Earth. Tom DeSanto introduced the Dinobots and Unicron, which resurrected the corpse of Megatron as it floated into space. The film also introduced Ransack, a Transformer who turned into an old-bi-plane and a T-model Car, who was killed by Jetfire. Other New Autobots include Springer, Depth Charge, and Breakaway. The Film was directed by Michael Bay under Spielberg's request.

Transformers 3(2011)
Transformers 3 Released on July 3rd, 2011. Ehren Kruger had full writing credit. This included a scene in Chernobyl. The film was also released in IMAX 3D. James Cameron stepped into the role of the new Director, due to Michael Bay's directing being questioned after his directing of the sequel led to the film not being as well received. The new film was based on Beast Wars. Cameron brought the crew of Avatar onboard for the film. While based on Beast Wars, time travel allowed several characters to return. This included Ultra Magnus, played by Leonard Nimoy. Wheeljack and Mirage were killed off in the film and Optimus Prime nearly killed. Mirage being killed by Starscream.

G.I.Joe/Transformers
G.I.Joe/ Transformers was the first crossover between both film franchises and therefore featured Jason Statham in the lead human role. The film had two Directors, Stephen Spielberg and Michael Bay, the former directing the Transformers segments and the latter directing the G.I Joe segments. Cobra and the Decepticons were brought back as the antagonists.

Akiva Goldsman was brought onboard to direct the next film Transformers: The Last Stand. The Writer's room included Christina Hodson, Lindsey Beer, Ken Nolan, Andrew Barrer, Gabriel Ferrari, Robert Kirkman, Zak Penn, Art Marcum, Matt Holloway, Jeff Pinkner, and Geneva Robertson-Dworet. The Film feautred the Quintessons as the final antagonist of the film series.​
 
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Transformers: The Movies
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Optimus Prime and Bumblebee on Cybertron in the First Film.

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Director Stephen Spielberg with an early design for Optimus Prime on the set.


Don Murphy stepped in to produce a G.I.Joe film Adaptation. Hasbro, at the same time asked TomDeSanto, a fan of the Transformers franchise, to adapt the series to film. Simon Furman and several fo the creators of Generation 1 were brought in. The Creation Matrix was made the Macguffin of the film, and a human perspective was created for the audience. The tone was made similar to a disaster film. The Autobots featured were Optimus Prime, Ironhide, Jazz, Prowl, Arcee(Not female ITTL), Ratchet, Wheeljack, and Bumblebee. The Decepticons includes were Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak, Rumble, Skywarp and Shockwave.
Steven Spielberg, a fan of the comics and toys, became the executive producer in 2004. John Rogers wrote the first Script, which put 4 Autobots against 4 Decepticons. This also included the Ark Spaceship and prologue on Cybertron, the prologue ending with the Ark crashing onto Earth. Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman were hired to rewrite the script. They were fans of the Cartoon. Spielberg suggested the story start being about "a boy and his Car." This led to the creation of the characters of Sam and Mikaela. Originally the robots didn't talk but this was changed. Because of fear it looked bad, Optimus Prime never spoke without his mouth covered. A battle at the Grand Canyon was added. Spielberg gave regular notes for improvement. To hide the film's process, the title The Prime Directive was used. Spielberg asked Michael Bay to direct but he refused, calling the film a "Stupid toy movie". Spielberg looked for other Directors before choosing to take up the project himself.

The Transformers in the film are capable of Double-shifting as Soundwave does in the film. The character of "Fig" does not exist due to less focus on the military. Spielberg changed Sam and Mikaela into kids, removing the OTL romantic relationship into more of a small crush without any sexualization. The film implies it will end with Optimus Prime and Megatron dying, but Optimus Prime is saved and Megatron dies, being killed, by Bumblebee in order to save Prime. The film was set in the 1980's with very faithful to the cartoon designs.

Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman returned to write the second film Transformers 2. Ehren Kruger was hired as a screenwriter due to his encyclopedic knowledge of the Transformers mythology. The script followed the Autobots lives on Earth. Paramount announced a 2009 release date. Tom DeSanto introduced the Dinobots. The Sequel introduced Unicron, which resurrected the corpse of Megatron as it floated into space. The film also introduced Ransack, a Transformer who turned into an old-bi-plane and a T-model Car, who was killed by Jetfire. Other New Autobots include Springer, Depth Charge, and Breakaway. The Film was directed by Michael Bay under Spielberg's request.

Transformers 3 Released on July 3rd, 2011. Ehren Kruger had full writing credit. This included a scene in Chernobyl. The film was also released in IMAX 3D. James Cameron stepped into the role of the new Director, due to Michael Bay's directing being questioned. The new film was based on Beast Wars. Cameron brought the crew of Avatar onboard for the film. While based on Beast Wars, time travel allowed several characters to return or premier. This included Ultra Magnus, played by Leonard Nimoy. Wheeljack and Mirage were killed off in the film and Optimus Prime nearly killed. Mirage being killed by Starscream.

G.I.Joe/ Transformers was the first crossover between both film franchises and therefore featured Jason Statham in the lead human role. The film had two Directors, Stephen Spielberg and Michael Bay, the former directing the Transformers segments and the latter directing the G.I Joe segments. Cobra and the Decepticons were brought back as the antagonists.

Akiva Goldsman was brought onboard to direct the next film Transformers: The Last Stand. The Writer's room included Christina Hodson, Lindsey Beer, Ken Nolan, Andrew Barrer, Gabriel Ferrari, Robert Kirkman, Zak Penn, Art Marcum, Matt Holloway, Jeff Pinkner, and Geneva Robertson-Dworet. The Film feautred the Quintessons as the final antagonist of the film series.
Pros: Spielberg at the helm, no "Sam's Happy Time".
Cons: Alex Kurtzman still writes the scripts.
 
Pros: Spielberg at the helm, no "Sam's Happy Time".
Cons: Alex Kurtzman still writes the scripts.
Spielberg was pretty set on Michael Bay directing OTL even after all the movies he did make. So for Bay to be out. The second film would have had to do worse. Convincing Spielberg to drop Bay and Kurtzman. I see the second film as being closer in reception to OTL’s the Last Jedi. Creating a scenario where Cameron came in to fix things. Now however it’s unlikely Kurtzman will get his OTL failed cinematic universe planning roles or his Star Trek position.
 
History of Anime: 1907-1960
History of Anime: 1907-1960
"Activity Photo"

The First animated film from Japan by some is considered to be Katsudō Shashin (活動写真, "Activity Photo”), which was found in 2005. It has yet to be verified if this was indeed the earliest animated film in the country, but it is dated as far back as 1907. No other Japanese Animation is known to have been created prior to the year 1916. The First foreign film in Japan reached its shores in 1910. A film known as Fushigi no Bōrudo (不思議のボールド, "Miracle Board") was discovered but it is debatable if this can be considered an animated film as it concerns a man drawing. Les Exploits de Feu Follet by Émile Cohl became the first animated film shown in Japan on May 15, 1912.

German, American and European cartoons were displayed in the country at this time and likely influenced the development of the craft. It would be these films that inspired the “Fathers of Anime”: Ōten Shimokawa, Jun'ichi Kōuchi, and Seitaro Kitayama. Kōuchi's earliest known work is Namakura Gatana, a 1917 film centering on a Samurai who tries to attack people with a blunt Katana, found in its entirety in 2004.

Namakura Gatana

Many early Animations were short films based on Japanese Fables and stories and there was little effort to preserve them in the early days. As a result many are lost with some rare exceptions. Among them is Urashima Tarō, a story of a fisherman travelling to the Underworld on the Back of a Turtle released in February 1918 and rediscovered at a market at the Shitennō-ji temple in Osaka in 2007[1].

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Aftermath of the Great Kantō earthquake in Nihonbashi.

The three "Fathers of Anime" would meet and agree to work together, forming an early animation studio. When the 1923 Great Kantō Earthquake struck, the three animators fled their studio, but saved as many of their works as they could. Following the incident, the trio began to push towards preservation in Japan, hoping to prevent the old films from being lost to time[2]. The Animated films that were lost were reproduced by the trio to the best of their abilities and the reproductions sent to various cities, a practice which carried over to film as well. Within a year of the Earthquake the Animation industry was up and running again. The way the early films were told would be with a storyteller narrating the silent film. In 1927, the film Singin' In the Rain was released in the US, ironically about the invention of Sound threatening the film industry. Japan experimented with making "Talkies" as well. One of the earliest attempts was with Animal Olympic Games, which attempted to include animal sounds, though often resorted to recreating the sounds during the screening.

Animal Olympics

The first successful talkie was 1931's The Neighbor's Wife and Mine (マダムと女房, Madamu to Nyōbō) and the first animated talkie was in 1933 with Chikara to Onna no Yo no Naka (力と女の世の中, lit. "Within the World of Power and Women" or "The World of Power and Women") by Kenzō Masaoka, which concerned an affair. It was lost but later rediscovered.

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Two Characters from Chikara to Onna no Yo no Naka

By the 1930’s, Animation in the country was a respected artform, often competing with Disney and other Western companies. Cutout Animation was still used by the decade’s prominent animators such as Noburō Ōfuji and Yasuji Murata, rather than the Cel animation employed elsewhere. Other Animators such as Kenzō Masaoka and Mitsuyo Seo made great strides while creating Government Propaganda. Several Animation studios were brought together to form the Shin Nippon Mangaka Kyōkai. The First Manga Adaptation is a 1933 adaptation of the Series Norakuro in shorts, based on the author's time in the Army played for comedy and the shorts were individual quick scenes based on scenarios such as a Roll Call and a Drill.

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Norakuro, 1931 Manga

Benkai tai Ushiwaka was a 1939 Cel Animated film experimenting further with sound about a meeting with two legendary figures Saitō Musashibō Benkei, who was collecting swords for the Buddha, and Minamoto no Yoshitsune, Benkei was collecting swords for Buddha and Yoshitsune refused to hand over his own, leading to a battle which Yoshitsune wins but makes Benkei his vassal. In an attempt to integrate the sound into the animation, Kenzō Masaoka recorded his voice saying the lines for Benkei, which provides one of the few sound recordings of what one of the Pioneers of Anime sounded like. By this time and going into the 1940's propaganda was the focus of most animators, though there was some exceptions such as Masaoka's 1943 film Kumo to Tulip, in which a Spider[3] attempts to capture a Ladybug in its web with the Ladybug escaping when rain falls and drowns the Spider.

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Screenshot from Momotaro: Sacred Sailors

The first full length anime was the Japanese Navy sponsored Momotaro: Sacred Sailors(1945). The film depicts animals, including a bear, a monkey, and a dog, playing on an island before meeting and being recruited by the Japanese Army as they arrive on the island during the Pacific War. They learn Japanese from them and are drafted into the war, which is played as serious. They are able to defeat a British force and it is implied that they will attack the United States next, or at least that is their next enemy.

Post-War, the Animation department was overhauled as the country recovered from devastation. Most Animation in the country appeared in Advertisements. Propaganda cartoons were scarce, often not supported by either government, though one animated short depicts a Samurai fighting a giant which he struggles to fight but refuses to give up, to the extent he nearly kills himself in exhaustion. Despite being defeated, the Giant does not kill him and instead shows him mercy, commenting that the Samurai was a worthy opponent.

The presence of American soldiers on the island would have a defining presence and influence in the development of Anime. Those Soldiers brought with them Disney Comics, depicting the adventures of Scrooge McDuck and others. As Soldiers shipped out, a Disney Comic belonging to one of the soldiers fell off a truck and into the mud. A 17 year old Osamu Tezuka would find it and pick it up. Tezuka had begun writing his own Manga. He’d watched Bambi multiple times and while he’d done some work. This was the push he needed towards creating the works that would define Anime.

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Osamu Tezuka

Osamu Tezuka’s style, using simplified techniques previously employed by Disney. While intended to reduce cost and meet tight schedules, the practices would be adopted by the rest of the industry, now defining the medium, and shaping it into what it would become.

As Japan recovered, it would take until 1958 for such grand projects to return. The Earliest surviving Japanese animation broadcast on Television, Mole's Adventure, was broadcast. It concerned a mole, annoyed by the Sunlight, building a rocketship and travelling to another planet, only for it to all be revealed as a dream. However, that same year the first feature film since 1945's Momotaro: Sacred Sailors would be released. For the plot, an adaptation of the Song Dynasty Chinese folktale was chosen as the Toei Doga president Hiroshi Ōkawa wanted to reconcile Japan with its neighbors which became The White Snake Enchantress. The film was a massive undertaking due to technoligical limitations at the time and had 13,590 people working on it. The World held its breath to see if Japan could produce a feature film to rival Disney and then let out the breath. The film received awards at Film Festivals but was seen as a disappoint by the US soon after, with almost no changes, though it led to many Americans thinking a red panda was a mythical creature and not a real one. One of the in between animators, Hayao Miyazaki and Shigeyuki Hayashi, both 17at the time would later find their own success in the growing industry. The film remains a staple in Japan with images of its characters still appearing in public places to this day[4].

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The White Snake Enchantress Characters on a Landmark sign in Nerima Station in Tokyo

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In 1959, Toei produced their second feature film, Magic Boy, about a child named Sasuke who could talk to animals and battles a female Demon named Yakusha, who kills his pet eagle. Sasuke vows revenge and goes to train with a magician to hone his magic powers and fight the Demon. As with The White Snake Enchantress, MGM handled distribution rights, calling the Film The Adventures of the Little Ninja, even translating the songs[5]. The film was seen by many of the US as Japan's attempt to make a Disney film with songs and cute animals.

Notes
[1] OTL the rediscovery of the film turned out to be false, turning out to be another work. ITTL it was the actual film.

[2] Due to the Earthquake and World War II, only 4% of Films made in Japan before 1945 are known to exist. The Number of films saved ITTL is somewhat greater.

[3] OTL the Spider in Spider and Tulip is an example of Blackface. Not the case ITTL. It's drawn as horrific as possible, many black eyes, pincers and drooling.

[4] Regarding Production of The White Snake Enchantress. The US release translated a Red Panda into a cat and removed the names of the Japanese Production team, which they do not do ITTL. Miyazaki did not work on the film OTL but Shigeyuki did, and yes he was 17. It seemed perfect to connect Miyazaki with Japan's first modern Animated Film.


[5] OTL Magic Boy was released by MGM with the title translating to Samurai and not Ninja because Samurai had a more heroic reputation while Ninja were seen as sneaky assassins. The songs were also kept in Japanese. ITTL the original title is kept and songs translated.
 
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Speaking of Horror series, I think the Alien Franchise could be made as a entry considering the various "stumbling blocks" that the franchise had *cough* Alien 3, AVP *cough*.
Maybe include the Predator franchise as well.

I also see someone requested Percy Jackson, I have a suggestion, maybe make it into an animated movie trilogy/TV series instead of live action ala OTL and as contrast to the live action Harry Potter movies?
I have the DC comic "Book of Magic " done as a Animated Series ,
Percy Jackson should have work as a live action movie but they needed better directors and writers as well as casting younger actors for the lead roles as they did with the Harry Potter films .
 
Transformers(IDW Comics): 2007-2018
Transformers: Post Films: 2007-2018
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Art by Phil Jimenez from the Transformers/Justice League Crossover

As is often the case with adaptations, the Transformers franchises shifted following the release of the films. The Comic series was rebooted as Transformers: More than Meets the Eye to cash in on the film. Writer James Roberts reintroduced the character Ravage on a stowaway and spy aboard the ship, the Lost Light. The Series borrowed from many sources but was not required to adhere to the story of the films. British Publisher, Titan Comics, seeking to benefit from the Transformers film license but having nothing after adapting the main story of the film, Titan released Transformers: Twilight's Last Gleaming, which depicted what would have happened had the Decepticons won the final battle in the film, something seen in the Video Game adaptation of the Film as well. The series focused on a resistance movement seeking to prevent the now Earth ruling Decepticons from terraforming the planet and transforming it into a new Cybertron while also hoping to possibly resurrect at least Optimus Prime in order to reccruit him. While intended to be short, the story arc ended up being much longer, lasting until the sequel's release.

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In the main series, a crossover with DC was underway. This crossover included Optimus Prime becoming a Green Lantern and Transformer versions of the Batmobile, Batwing and Wonder Woman's Invisible Jet.

In 2010, the miniseries "Legacy of Rust " was announced at 2010's San Diego Comic-Con. The series was four issues written by Stuart Moore focusing on the double agent Punch. Following the series, The Transformers IDW continuity was rebooted.

Hasbro seeking to expand its shared universe, released several comics folding GoBots as the predecessors of the Transformers characters such as Road Ranger and Bug Bite being the fathers of Optimus Prime and Bumblebee respectively, along with other connections established.​
 
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Image: 1992-Present


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Marvel had new talent coming in, the more experienced artists holding art classes to the new talent. As a result of this, Marvel books looked good and read good. Shooter decided it was time to do another major event like with Secret Wars. This event would become known as Infinity War, Beginning in 1992. Infinity War concerned The Mad Titan Thanos assembling the Infinity Gems. Despite the efforts of the Marvel Heroes, Thanos succeeded and as a show of force, wiped out half the universe, before the heroes were able to undo the snap. Ironically, Marvel itself would find itself split in half.

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Jim Lee's Punisher: War Journal Wolverine Cover

Jim Shooter is a divisive figure, he can be a hero or villain. Regardless of how one feels, Marvel was in its heyday when he was running the ship. He worked to keep creators happy, seeing them as the company's lifeblood. Shooter even defended John Byrne when someone complained to Stan Lee about his work. Shooter was also an artist and occasionally carried his own weight, even when he gave advice that contradicted Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's own rules on creating comics. The Position Artist-Editor was created by Stan-Lee for creators who were seen as not needing editors. This didn't work and it was removed by Shooter, but Byrne could occupy it well. Byrne was famous for his Marvel Superman story during the superhero exchange program and his work on Fantastic Four and X-Men. After the Phoenix Saga, Byrne wanted to bring back Jean Grey. Something Claremont was against. Shooter needed to mediate between Byrne and Claremont when Byrne introduced an apparently alive Jean Grey in Fantastic Four, who was retconned as a clone. Byrne left after Shooter rejected multiple requests to bring back Jean Grey. This left Peter David and Todd McFarlane to take up the Hulk title that Byrne had been writing. McFarlane was moved to Spider-Man, introducing Venom and turning the book into a big seller. Marvel also recruited two new artists in Jim Lee and Wilce Portacio. Lee was given The Punisher: War Journal. Lee's image of the Punisher's shirt with Wolverine's claws poking through became as Iconic as Todd McFarlane's cover depicting the Hulk reflecting on Wolverine's claws. Lee got to draw Wolverine even more when he was moved to Uncanny X-Men. Marl Silvestre was also becoming Popular. McFarlane was succeeded by Erik Larsen on Spider-Man. Louise Simonson was given a new artist on The New Mutants named Rob Liefeld, a controversial figure. Self taught. Known for drawing normal humans as deformed mutants , big guns, and big pouches. Liefeld was seen as everything wrong with the 90's, a self parody with all sincerity. Despite his faults, Liefeld revived The New Mutants by introducing Cable and Deadpool, which Simonson fleshed out into full characters. Liefeld was often called "The Idiot" by his fellow coworkers, but he was about to receive his first big break. McFarlane wanted to draw his own book. Shooter allowed this and even offered words of encouragement and suggestions. McFarlane was given his own original character: Spawn. Liefeld, who had also rebooted New Mutants into X-Force, wanted a similar deal. These artists were having their rise fueled. Everything was perfect. Then Liefeld made a bad move.

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Rob Liefeld

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Todd McFarlane


Liefeld was offered a job at Malibu Comics and accepted, failing to convince anyone else to leave with him.. He announced that he was making a new series for them called The Executioners. The first character he created was based on himself, led a Superhero team and was named Shaft. Executioners was similar to New Mutants. Liefeld was threatened by a lawsuit and backed down. McFarlane had a desire to leave start his own company anyway to allow himself full control of his creations. Shooter was famous for trying to keep his talent happy. When Chris Claremont complained about a trip to the Midwest, Shooter asked him where they wanted to go. Claremont as a joke said Paris and Shooter arranged a trip to Europe with the X-Men staff. It was an all expense paid trip to London, Paris and Rome, paid largely by Foreign Companies like Marvel UK happy for the promotion. Jim Lee was asked to fly to New York and Shooter paid for Lee's wife to fly there as well. However, even Shooter couldn't stop the massive egos of what the other members of the Marvel Bullpen called "The Rebel without a Cause" and "The Rebel without a Clue" and despite his efforts both Liefeld and McFarlane would depart for Malibu Comics. McFarlane would later post on twitter the hundreds of rejection letters he received, and at the very last, one from Shooter suggesting where he could improve and who he could talk to in order to improve himself. McFarlane gave a heartfelt goodbye and a hug. Liefeld's goodbye to Shooter was to come to the office with a brown box. Shooter would pick up his coat and be bitten by something. He found a rat giving birth in his coat pocket.

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Steven Massarsky

Shooter had another rat in his office, Steven Massarsky. A Lawyer and then investor, it was Massarsky who convinced Shooter to publish Mario Comics and Wrestling Comics as he had licensing rights with Nintendo and WWF. Massarsky was in a relationship with Melanie Oakin, who was one of the chief controllers of Triumph Capital. Shooter was aware of this but had ignored it, not thinking it would effect the company. Unfortunately, Massarsky was now making plans to sell Marvel to Triumph Capital behind Shooter's back. This led to the company attempting to cut off all ties to Massarsky and losing a large chunk of their funding. Massarsky switched sides to kick Shooter out when he had previously been the one protecting Shooter. Shooter fought back as he believed several of the artists under him would lose their jobs as soon as he left. What he feared happened and Shooter was kicked out along with the artists and writers he'd defended, most of which were only given boxes of their belongings thrown onto the sidewalk. Things seemed bleak for Shooter, fired from his own company. This was the lowest point, but then again, that's usually when the Hero shows up, but this was the 90's, who showed up instead were the anti-heroes.

Hearing of the plight of Shooter and the writers, McFarlane, along with several other writers, including those which had quit from Marvel as a result of Shooter's firing such as Mark Silvestre, Wilce Portacio, Erik Larson, and Jim Valentino formed their own company. McFarlane hated Valentino's inclusion but saw this as a necessary team up. This seemed to be because Valentino was not a big name writer, having written the largely forgotten original Guardians of the Galaxy, far different from the more popular version introduced later, and was not an artist while the other members of the party were both Writer and Artist, even Liefeld who was seen as bad at both and Shooter, who was willing to draw an issue himself and had a formula for how to write Marvel stories akin to the Hero's Journey, but made for self contained stories. Shooter was offered a chance to join the growing group. McFarlane had risen in the ranks of Malibu and was soon to be running the company, planning on renaming it after himself, but he still thought they could takeover Marvel and hand Shooter the keys back. The entirety of the assembled writers stormed into Massarsky's office at Marvel and demanded the company back, threatening a lawsuit. The Conversation is vague as there are different accounts by each person there. Tom DeFalco was editor-in-Chief at the time and he was walking by and was invited in. Some say he was eavesdropping and they opened the door. Liefeld and only Liefeld says he did a pratfall when the door opened. DeFalco says he simply opened the door and entered, not realizing the meeting was occurring. At the meeting, Shooter and McFarlane made a list of demands that were refused and Marvel was taken to court. The Incident was known as the Marvel Civil War hereafter. Rumors are Liefeld left the most important meeting of his career to go to the bathroom, loudly declaring this to everyone.

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Valiant Comics Logo

Despite the chaos behind the scenes, publication of the Comics continued almost unabated. Shooter and McFarlane formed the Valiant Comic Company to create works and keep the creators. Shooter hated Liefeld for the rat prank and wanted him fired. According to Liefeld, Shooter told him "There's always someone else to pick the cotton." Shooter denies ever saying this. McFarlane kept Liefeld around, referring to him as "The Court Jester", because the whole running their own comic company thing was Liefeld's idea. McFarlane had made something bigger out of it, similar to other creators transforming Cable and Deadpool, Liefeld's most popular creations, into Unique characters in their own right. McFarlane had improved on the original idea, in his own words.

Valiant did surprisingly well, growing to rival the big two as a potential third option. There was also Dark Horse Comics which boasted Mike Mignola's Hellboy and Frank Miller's Sin City among other creators such as John Byrne. Shooter set out to obtain obscure Golden Age heroes he fondly remembered from his childhood owned by Gold Key Comics such as Magnus: Robot Fighter, Solar: Man of the Atom, and Turok: Dinosaur Hunter. Shooter scooped them up and retold them, setting Turok in the distant past, Magnus in the distant future, and Solar: Man of the Atom set in the Present. Under Valiant, 7 studios were formed. Jim Lee's Wildstorm, Silvestre's Top Cow Productions, Larson's Highbrow Entertainment, which had the Flagship character of Savage Dragon, seen largely as Hulk with a fin on his head since Peter David had made the Hulk intelligent at that point due to falling sales on that book, managing to revive it as a megahit, Valentino's Shadowline Ink, McFarlane's Todd McFarlane Productions and Liefeld's EXTREME Studios. Portacio stayed with Shooter to give him another big name creator to keep Valiant alive. It was already difficult to do art and writing due to the bigger level of quality demanded.

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Rob Liefeld's Youngblood
Liefeld tried and failed to get his series Youngblood off the ground, due to it being a ripoff of his previous titles. He then incorporated ideas of the series into his brief stint on Teen Titans, which was ill received(Comic Reviewer Lewis Lovhaug has commented that Liefeld Ruined Teen Titans for him and committed to reviewing every issue). Liefeld, now that he could create his own characters, created a Thing-like character called Bedrock, with his catchphrase "Yabba-Dabba Doom". Naturally Hannah-Barbara, owner of the Flintstones, sued. Not wanting to be dragged down by this stupidity, Shooter cut Liefeld loose. He was on his own now, sink or swim.

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Spawn
Todd McFarlane started his own Spawn series, continuing the the tale of an undead hero losing his powers overtime. Other creations was Lee's Wildcats, Silvestre's Cyber Force, Valentino's Shadowhawk, Larson's Savage Dragon and others boosted company's credit. Most of these books had schedule slips, leading to readers falling back on the Valiant line as it kept stable.

Perlman, after failing to buy Marvel, continued his practice of buying failing companies, such as selling New World to Rupert Murdoch for 2.5 Five Million Dollars. Perlman believed Marvel could become a new Disney and was determined to buy it. With Shooter gone, he saw his chance to try again and was coming close. He planned to replace Massarsky with Bill Jemas, who bribed Stan Lee, tripling his salary. Realizing that if Marvel had the potential to be its own Disney, then Stan Lee was Mr. Walt Disney. Stan Lee was the brand even though his role was honorary at this point. Perlman also knew that the characters Marvel owned had potential for films. Lee had tried a few times to get movies made of the Marvel Heroes, selling the film rights of the various characters to multiple companies but Perlman thought he could have pulled it off. Marvel Comics were beginning to rise in popularity. Perlman had Marvel sell multiple versionss of Todd McFarlane's first Spider-Man story Torment in multiple covers. These sold well and the gimmick was repeated, again and again. This was the birth of Cover Gimmicks, to appeal to collectors. Tom DeFalco was given the order to continue the prophets. This was hurting Marvel by appealing largely to collectors. Valiant did not fall into this. Most Comic Book would, especially comic shops at risk of closing down constantly. The process was so lucrative, that Silver Sable #1 was released and sold half a million copies. This was seen as a disaster due to the massive amount of sales at this time.

Shooter realized all the gimmicks were hurting the company and made plans to either buy Marvel back and avert the disaster, or buy it after its fall and restore it. When the price went up and people stopped buying and the sales were shown to be dropping, the gimmick was quickly wearing off. The Market was shrinking. Then one day, Perlman went to see the Danny DeVito 1991 film "Other People's Money". DeVito in the film made a speech commenting that the quickest way to go broke was getting an increased share of a shrinking market. The realization hit Perlman hard and he demanded a drop in the Cover Gimmicks. The X-Men titles were condensed as the X-Men spinoffs were no longer selling well. Valiant, DC, and others were still carrying on the Cover gimmicks. Then DC announced that Superman was going to die. The event helped saved Superman and DC. Sales grew while the market shrank and very soon the bubble would burst. Shooter and his group were allowed back into the company in the face of the declining sales.

The 30th Anniversary was approaching for many Marvel mainstays from the Fantastic Four, the Hulk, and Spider-Man. Spider-Man had multiple titles. An old idea pitched by Stan Lee called Marvel 2099 was launched. Prior to this the big Limited series invents had been Secret Wars and Infinity War. Both were successes but planned sequels to Infinity War never materialized. Instead Marvel wanted to push new events rather than sequels to existing ones(This butterflies away the OTL Infinity War, which means the character of Doppleganger does not exist). Special issues for Spider-Man's 30th anniversary were released. One plot point had Peter's parents appear to be alive, later revealed to be robot duplicates. At around the same time the character of Venom was turned into an Anti-Hero, and an evil counterpart to Venom was introduced in Carnage. This led to the event Maximum Carnage(known by the Marvel staff as Maximum garbage). Carnage in the story goes on a rampage, killing innocent civilians and forcing Spider-Man and Venom to team up. Harry Osborn was also killed off after mentally snapping and donning the Green Goblin suit for a final time. While saddened by Harry's death, Spider-Man did not brood for long, as Tom DeFalco saw this as a disservice to the character.

Th Avengers had an event known as the Kree-Shi'ar Wa(Operation: Desert Storm not existing to inspire Avengers: Galactic Storm). The X-Men had Executioner's Song with Jim Lee and Wilce Portacio and then other planned X-Men events. Peter David disliked the crossovers, comparing them to mandatory dental work, and was able to convince them the higher ups to cancel several planned events such as Fatal Attractions and the Phalanx Covenant. The Storylines were successful but were seen as transparent attempts to inflate the number of books. Taking the approach of Less is more, a big single event was planned in X-Men: Age of Apocalypse. In that story, Professor X's son travels back in time to kill Magneto but travels to a time when Xavier and Magneto were friends and Xavier takes the bullet for Magneto. This causes the assassin to disappear and Magneto to form the X-Men in memory of his late friend. Apocalypse rises up and takes over the world. The Status quo would be restored. The event was a critical and financial success, cementing the position of Bob Harras at the company.

At Valiant, things had changed, Shooter was back in Marvel but had passed ownership of the company to Jim Lee as Editor-in-Chief. Lee happened to be good friends with Steve Massarsky. Ironically their companies were fierce competitors, but a deal was made, speculated to have been planned by Shooter, but this is unlikely as Shooter would not trust Massarsky again. Todd McFarlane, taking too long on Spawn brought in veteran comic writers and legends in their own right to write the series instead. This included Alan Moore, Dave Sim(known for the series Cerebus the Aardvark, which crossed over with Spawn), Frank Miller(who crossed over his run with Batman), and Neil Gaiman. Each legend wrote one issue. Gaiman naturally wrote about what it was like to be Spawn and the Cosmic scope of the Universe and introduced two beloved Spawn characters, Angela and Cagliostro, as well as the idea that there had been many Spawn throughout history. McFarlane loved this as it expanded the franchise. Gaiman was happy because this meant that due to the way Valiant was run, all royalties would go to him. McFarlane had specifically enforced this as he had suffered with characters he created. McFarlane had drawn a scene of Marvel and DC characters in Hell, trapped because they couldn't enjoy the freedom that Spawn and his creator did. It would be hypocritical for McFarlane to not allow Gaiman to keep the rights to his characters, and yet that is exactly what McFarlane did.

McFarlane argued that Gaiman was a work for hire and that since he had drawn the characters, they belonged to him. The two sued each other and the likes of Lee and Shooter backed Gaiman on this. Since there was now bad blood between Gaiman and McFarlane, it was decided to let McFarlane go. Gaiman was seen as far more worth keeping on, having penned The Sandman, considered one of the greatest comics of all time. Gaiman didn't feel comfortable continuing the story of Spawn, so for awhile it would be tossed about, eventually landing in the lap of Mike Mignola(leading to a crossover with Hellboy). Gaiman at least had permission to write Cagliostro and Angela.
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Lee and Shooter had a plan to gather up all the looser companies, most of which had a problem with scheduling. It was discovered that Valiant saw story as the most important thing while most of the artists that split off to form their own companies saw Art as the most important element. Massarsky was a businessman. Lee was an artist, so they saw their craft as being the most important element. Massarsky wanted the sales Valiant had and Lee wanted to draw beloved Marvel characters. The two were curious about the thoughts other creators had and a meeting of the creators was called which included Liefeld due to his company being represented. A conversation with Rob Liefeld revealed that to him Story was an afterthought. McFarlane, present at the meeting is said to have mumbled under his breath that it was more like an afterbirth(or something that sounded like that when mumbled). Liefeld thought that he was being called an afterbirth and believed Shooter had made the comment(he was sitting beside McFarlane). Liefeld left the meeting and shortly after McFarlane was let go for his feud with Gaiman. It was no secret Liefeld and Shooter hated each other, but now McFarlane and Liefeld had both left once again. Malibu Comics was happy to have them. Shooter was finally convinced from this experience that there was no pleasing everyone and let them leave, making no effort to keep them onboard. The two returned to McFarlane's owned Malibu Comic Company, rebranding it to Image Comics.

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Deathmate Prologue

Massarsky and Lee began to collaborate on potential crossovers behind Shooter's back. Lee also collaborated with McFarlane to create an event known as Deathmate. Valiant writers hated working with Image because they carefully ran the company while Image was still new and fresh. Lee was able to get Liefeld, Wilce Portacio and Mark Silvestre onboard with his storyline. The pitch involved The Valiant character Solar and the Wildstorm character Void engaging in a battle that accidentally merged both universes. Rather than numbers, the crossover was individual stories held to a single issue. Two for Valiant, Two for Image, one written by one writer, Lee would write one and reluctantly asked Shooter to have a hand in the writing process, being surprised when he said yes. Shooter would write the other volume of the crossover event. McFarlane and Liefeld each wrote one on the Image side. Bob Layton also did some writing when Liefeld fell behind. When it became evident that Liefeld couldn't finish his work on schedule, Layton went to Liefeld's house and stayed there, being overall rude to Liefeld and refusing to leave until Liefeld finished his work. Layton inked his project soon after in his hotel room. Liefeld was booted off the project but since McFarlane had no one to replace him with, the cracks in Image began to show and so it became a fully Valiant book, while released on time it showed the incompetence of Image and their chronic lateness, a recurring problem that would only get worse.

Among the books that executive order was provided to in order to finish was the 1963 Annual and 1963 #½ The 1963 annual was drawn by Jim Lee and pitted the Marvel Silver Age expies from his series against the more morally ambivalent characters from the Image partners. Moore also contributed to Youngblood: Judgment Day. Alan Moore reshaped the Youngblood universe to bring back the spirit of the Silver Age, such as turning Allies into a modern-day Justice League and Youngblood into an equivalent of Teen Titans. He also wrote the magical adventure with Glory and Maxi Mage. Moore also introduced a relationship between Suprema and Big Brother and introduced a stand in for Martian Manhunter(Thus butterflies away Promethea, which OTL involved the unused ideas). Alan Moore in particular, took a liking to the Superman Expy Supreme and requested he write a solo series for the character. Many expected he would turn it into a jaded and cynical take on Superheroes. Instead Moore wrote the character as a return to the Silver Age lighthearted and hopeful stories of Superman. A breath of fresh air. Alan Moore weaved a massive multiversal conclusion to the story. Moore's run was followed by Alex Ross, who went onto pen the storyline "Supreme: World War Infinity" a tribute to Crisis events.

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A Popular Statue of Supreme and his Supreme Dog Radar.

Other Image series to be completed were Darker Image #1-4, Doom’s IV #2 and the “Doom’s IV Sourcebook”. During the "Images of Tomorrow" event, Bloodstrike and Brigade were given their full run to issue #25. Image also created licensed comics based on Power Rangers Zeo, which crossed over with Youngblood. Of course, one wonders if any of this was possible without what happened to Liefeld.

Stan Lee was campaigning as the face of Marvel, trying to, since the late 80's, get Marvel projects out there. A Daredevil Animated series and a live action Black Widow TV Series were the latest examples brought into the world thanks to his efforts. New World had sold Captain America and the Punisher to Cannon films, resulting in films. Still there was money to be made in expansion. Junk Bonds were introduced by the Marvel company. New World had begun to crank out films and that led to their collapse as it was clearly quantity over quality. Marvel also bought several sticker companies and began to eye Toybiz for buying out. All this to become something as big as Disney. Perlman would buy companies just to balance out the rest of the money he owed. One sticker company Panini, signed a deal with Disney to produce exclusive sticker books for them. A baseball strike occurred that was just barely resolved by the time of the World Series, which would have endangered Marvel's ownership of several Baseball card companies, namely Fleer, which was also bought.

There was just one problem, Valiant's success, Comics Crossovers selling extremely well, the sales of Actions Comics #1 for Millions of Dollars fueled the idea that novelty and gimmick covers were the way to go. Speculators bought them up. The problem was large amounts of Comics were not being sold. Comic companies did not want competition and so the two biggest Comic distribution Companies: Diamond and Capitol(who owned all the Comic Shops between them) shut the door on competition, preferring to keep the competition small. The number of Retailers got so big and many were in it for the money, threatening the entire industry. Demand for the products wanted began to fall and so the Gimmick was abandoned when it became clear what was causing this. Hit the hardest by this was Image, which could never meet the deadlines. Publishers cut down on the number of books.

The industry was hit quite hard and Marvel nearly collapsed. Marvel had been the chief force behind the cover gimmick and now it was about to nearly destroy the company. A phone system was set up when the industry began to collapse as a result of the Comic companies rapidly losing money. So many calls came in to the Marvel server that the computers and servers, kept in a room without ventilation, caught fire, burning almost the entire building down. Diamond, one of the chief Comic book store companies signed a deal with DC for exclusive distribution rights. Their rival Capitol, appealed towards the other companies Dark Horse, Image and Valiant and convinced them to sign exclusive rights to their books, helping to balance the industry. Perlman tried to buy another company that made Basketball cards and mixed it with Fleer, hoping to somehow balance out the mess. This didn't balance out the company and instead things got worse. Perlman announced Marvel Mart to sell exclusive Marvel merchandise but this threatened to worsen the crisis. It was Capitol who proposed a solution. They suggested that Capitol become the main distributor of Marvel just as Diamond did with DC. Capitol would willingly give up control of Valiant, Image and Dark Horse to Hero's World, a smaller distributor in the midwest, who could handle the smaller load compared to the big two. A full on monopoly would actually hurt business so a tense balance was achieved instead. It wasn't much and things were about to get so much worse. This was beginning of what is often erroneously called the Bronze Age Collapse.​
 
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So I started watching SF Debris's the Rise and Fall of the Comic Empire and I decided to commit to at least a larger segment built around working towards explaining the Comic Crash of the 90's and how things went differently in more detail. I admit that the Video Series was a huge source of inspiration for this. I don't expect to go this deep for everything though most likely a select few subjects. This will specifically cover the Behind the Scenes drama not that on the page.

History of the Marvel Universe: The Copper Age: Part II: Behind the Scenes: 1990-1995
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Marvel had new talent coming in, the more experienced artists holding art classes to the new talent. As a result of this, Marvel books looked good and read good. Shooter decided it was time to do another major event like in Secret Wars. This event would become known as Infinity War, in 1992. Infinity War concerned The Mad Titan Thanos assembling the Infinity Gems. Despite the efforts of the Marvel Heroes, Thanos succeeded and as a show of force, wiped out half the universe, before the heroes were able to undo the snap.
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Jim Lee's Punisher: War Journal Wolverine Cover

Jim Shooter is a divisive figure, he can be a hero or villain. Regardless of how one feels, Marvel was in its heyday when he was running the ship. He worked to keep creators happy, seeing them as the company's lifeblood. Shooter even defended John Byrne when someone complained to Stan Lee about his work. Shooter was also an artist and occasionally carried his own weight, even when he gave advice that contradicted Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's own rules on creating comics. The Position Artist-Editor was created by Stan-Lee for creators who were seen as not needing editors. This didn't work and it was removed by Shooter could occupy it well. Byrne was famous for his Marvel's Superman story and had moved to Fantastic Four and X-Men. After the Pheonix Saga, Byrne wanted to bring back Jean Grey. Something Claremont was against. Shooter needed to mediate between Byrne and Claremont when Byrne introduced an apparently alive Jean Grey in Fantastic Four, who was retconned as a clone. Byrne left after Shooter rejected multiple requests. This left Peter David and Todd McFarlane to take up the Hulk title that Byrne had been writing. MCFarlane was moved to Spider-Man, introducing Venom and turning the book into a big seller. Marvel also recruited two new artist in Jim Lee and Wilce Portacio. Lee was given the Punisher: War Journal. Lee's image of the Punisher's shirt with Wolverine's claws poking through became as Iconic as Todd McFarlane's cover depicting the Hulk reflecting on Wolverine's claws. Lee got to draw Wolverine even more when he was moved to Uncanny X-Men. Marl Silvestre was also becoming Popular. McFarlane was succeeded by Erik Larsen on Spider-Man. Louise Simonson was given a new artist on The New Mutants named Rob Liefeld, a controversial figure. Self taught. Known for drawing deformed mutants, big guns, and big pouches. Liefeld was seen as everything wrong with the 90's a self parody with all sincerity. Despite his faults, Liefeld revived the New Mutants by introducing Cable and Deadpool, which Simonson fleshed out into full characters. Liefeld was often called "The Idiot" by his fellow coworkers. McFarlane wanted to draw his own book. Shooter allowed this and even offered words of encouragement and suggestions. McFarlane was given his own original character: Spawn. Liefeld was also rebooted New Mutants in X-Force. These artists were having their rise fueled. Everything was perfect. Then Liefeld made a bad move.

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Liefeld was offered a job at Malibu Comics. He announced that he was making a new series called The Executioners. The first character he created was based on himself, lead a Superhero team and was named Shaft. Executioners was similar to New Mutants. Liefeld was threatened by a lawsuit and backed down, but still fully intended to leave. McFarlane had a desire to leave start his own company anyway to allow himself full control of his creations. Shooter was famous for trying to keep his talent happy. When Chris Claremont complained about a trip to the Midwest, Shooter asked him where they wanted to go. Claremont as a joke said Paris and Shooter arranged a trip to Europe with the X-Men staff. It was an all expense paid trip to London, Paris and Rome, paid largely by Foreign Companies like Marvel UK happy for the promotion. Jim Lee was asked to fly to New York and Shooter paid for Lee's wife to fly there as well. However, even Shooter couldn't stop the massive egos or what the other members of the Marvel Bullpen called "The Rebel without a Cause" and "The Rebel without a Clue" and despite his efforts both Liefeld and McFarlane would depart for Malibu Comics. McFarlane would later post on twitter the hundreds of rejection letters he received, and at the very last, one from Shooter suggesting where he could improve and who he could talk to in order to improve himself. McFarlane gave a heartfelt goodbye and a hug. Liefeld's goodbye to Shooter was to come to the office with a brown box. Shooter would pick up his coat and be bitten by something. He found a rat giving birth in his coat pocket.
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Shooter had another rat in his office, Steven Massarsky. A Lawyer and then investor, it was Massarsky who convinced Shooter to publish Mario Comics and Wrestling Comics as he had licensing rights with Nintendo and WWF. Massarsky was in a relationship with Melanie Oakin, who was one of the chief controllers of Triumph Capital. Shooter was aware of this but had ignored it, not thinking it would effect the company. Unfortunately, Massarsky was now making plans to sell Marvel to Triumph Capital. This led to the company attempting to cut off all ties to Massarsky and losing a large chunk of their funding. Massarsky was now too powerful and switched sides to kick Shooter out when he had previously been the one protecting Shooter. Shooter fought back as he believed several of the artists under him would lose their jobs as soon as he left. What he feared happened and Shooter was kicked out along with the artists and writers he'd defended, most of which were only given boxes of their belongings thrown onto the sidewalk. Things seemed bleak for Shooter, fired from his own company. This was the lowest point, but then again, that's usually when the Hero shows up, or in this case, the Anti-Heroes.

Hearing of the plight of Shooter and the writers, McFarlane, along with several other writers, including those which had quit from Marvel as a result of Shooter's firing such as Mark Silvestre, Wilce Portacio, Erik Larson and Jim Valentino. McFarlane hated Valentino's inclusion but saw this as a necessary team up. This seemed to be because Valentino was not a big name writer, having written the largely forgotten original Guardians of the Galaxy, far different from the more popular version introduced later, and was not an artist while the other members of the party were both Writer and Artist, even Liefeld who was seen as bad at both and Shooter, who was willing to draw an issue himself and had a formula for how to write Marvel stories akin to the Hero's Journey but made for self contained stories. Shooter was offered a chance to join the growing group. McFarlane had risen in the ranks of Malibu and was soon to be running the company, planning on renaming it after himself, but he still thought they could takeover Marvel and hand Shooter the keys back. The entirety of the assembled writers stormed into Massarsky's office at Marvel and demanded the company back, threatening a lawsuit. The Conversation is vague as there are different accounts by each person there. Tom DeFalco was editor-in-Chief at the time and he was walking by and was invited in. Some say he was eavesdropping and they opened the door. Liefeld and only Liefeld says he did a pratfall when the door opened. Falco says he simply opened the door and entered, not realizing the meeting occurring. At the meeting, Shooter and McFarlane made a list of demands that were refused and Marvel was taken to court. The Incident was known as the Marvel Civil War hereafter. Rumors are Liefeld left the most important meeting of his career to go to the bathroom, loudly declaring this to everyone.
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Despite the chaos behind the scenes, publication of the Comics continued almost unabated. Shooter and McFarlane formed the Valiant Comic Company to create works and keep the creators. Shooter hated Liefeld for the rat prank and wanted him fired. According to Liefeld, Shooter told him "There's always someone else to pick the cotton." Shooter denies ever saying this. McFarlane kept Liefeld around, referred to as "The Court Jester", because the whole running their own comic company thing was Liefeld's idea. McFarlane had made something bigger out of it, similar to other creators transforming Cable and Deadpool, Liefeld's most popular creations, into Unique characters in their own right, McFarlane had improved on the original idea, in his own words.

Valiant did surprisingly well, growing to rival the big two as a potential third option. There was also Dark Horse Comics which boasted Mike Mignola's Hellboy and Frank Miller's Sin City among other creators such as John Byrne. Shooter set out to obtain obscure Golden Age heroes he fondly remembered from his childhood owned by Gold Key Comics such as Magnus: Robot Fighter, Solar: Man of the Atom, Turok: Dinosaur Hunter. Shooter scooped them up and retold them, setting Turok in the distant past and Magnus in the distant future, and Solar: Man of the Atom set in the Present. Under Valiant, 7 studios were formed. Jim Lee's Wildstorm, Silvestre's Top Cow Productions, Larson's Highbrow Entertainment, which had the Flagship character of Savage Dragon, seen largely as Hulk with a fin on his head since Peter David had made the Hulk intelligent at that point due to falling sales on that book, managing to revive it as a megahit, Valentino's Shadowline Ink, McFarlane's Todd McFarlane Productions and Liefeld's EXTREME Studios. Portacio stayed with Shooter to give him another big name creator to keep Valiant alive. It was already difficult to do art and writing due to the bigger level of quality demanded.
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Rob Liefeld's Youngblood

Liefeld tried and failed to get his series Youngblood off the ground. He had started the series in 1987 but it did not last long. He then incorporated ideas of the series into his brief stint on Teen Titans, which was ill received(Comic Reviewer Lewis Lovhaug has commented that Liefeld Ruined Teen Titans for him and committed to reviewing every issue). Liefeld, now that he could create his own characters, created a Thing-like character called Bedrock, with his catchphrase "Yabba-Dabba Doom". Naturally Hannah-Barbara, owner of the Flintstones, sued. Not wanting to be dragged down by this stupidity, Shooter cut Liefeld loose. He was on his own now, sink or swim.

Todd McFarlane started his own Spawn series, continuing the the tale of an undead hero losing his powers overtime. Other creations was Lee's Wildcats, Silvestre's Cyber Force, Valentino's Shadowhawk, Larson's Savage Dragon and others boosted company's credit. Most of these books had schedule slips, leading to readers falling back on the Valiant line as it kept stable.

Perlman, after failing to buy Marvel, continued his practice of buying failing companies, such as selling New World to Rupert Murdoch for 2.5 Five Million Dollars. Perlman believed Marvel could become a new Disney and was determined to buy it. With Shooter gone, he saw his chance to try again and was coming close. He planned to replace Massarsky with Bill Jemas, who bribed Stan Lee, tripling his salary. Realizing that if Marvel had the potential to be its own Disney, then Stan Lee was Mr.Walt Disney. Stan Lee was the brand even though his role was honorary at this point. Perlman also knew that the characters Marvel owned had potential for films. Lee had tried this a few times, selling the film rights of the various characters to multiple companies but Perlman thought he could have pulled it off. Marvel Comics were beginning to rise in popularity. Perlman had Marvel sell multiple versionss of Todd McFarlane's first Spider-Man story Torment in multiple covers. These sold well and the gimmick was repeated, again and again. This was the birth of Cover Gimmicks, to appeal to collectors. Tom DeFalco was given the order to continue the process. This was hurting Marvel by appealing largely to collectors. Valiant did not fall into this. Most Comic Book retailers had to, especially comic shops at risk of closing down constantly. Silver Sable #1 was released and sold half a million copies. This was seen as a disaster due to the massive amount of sales at this time.

Shooter realized all the gimmicks were hurting the company and made plans to either buy Marvel back and avert the disaster, or buy it after its fall and restore it. When the price went up and people stopped buying and the sales were shown to be dropping, the gimmick was quickly wearing off. The Market was shrinking. Then one day, Perlman went to see the Danny DeVito film "Other People's Money". DeVito in the film made a speech commenting the quickest way to go broke was getting an increased share of a shrinking market. The realization hit Perlman hard and he demanded a drop in the Cover Gimmicks. The X-Men titles were condensed. The X-Men spinoffs were not selling well. Valiant, DC, and others were still carrying on the Cover gimmicks. Then DC announced that Superman was going to die. The event helped saved Superman and DC. Sales grew while the market shrank and very soon the bubble would burst.

The 30th Anniversary was approaching for many Marvel mainstays from the Fantastic Four, the Hulk, and Spider-Man. Spider-Man had multiple titles. An old idea pitched by Stan Lee called Marvel 2099 was launched. Prior to this the big Limited series invents had been Secret Wars and Infinity War. Both were successes but planned sequels to Infinity War never materialized. Instead Marvel wanted to push new events rather than sequels to existing ones(This butterflies away the OTL Infinity War, which means the character of Doppleganger does not exist). Special issues for Spider-Man's 30th anniversary were released. One plot point had Peter's parents appear to be alive, later revealed to be robot duplicates. At around the same time the character of Venom was turned into an Anti-Hero, and an evil counterpart to Venom was introduced in Carnage. This led to the event Maximum Carnage(known by the Marvel staff as Maximum garbage). Carnage in the story goes on a rampage, killing innocent civilians and forcing Spider-Man and Venom to team up. Harry Osborn was also killed off after mentally snapping and donning the Green Goblin suit for a final time. While saddened by Harry's death, Spider-Man did not brood for long, as Tom DeFalco saw this as a disservice to the character.

Th Avengers had an event known as the Kree-Shi'ar Wa(Operation: Desert Storm not existing to inspire Avengers: Galactic Storm). The X-Men had Executioner's with Jim Lee and Wilce Portacio and then other planned X-Men events. Peter David disliked the crossovers, comparing them to mandatory dental work, and was able to convince them the higher ups to cancel several planned events such as Fatal Attractions and the Phalanx Covenant. The Storylines were successful but were seen as transparent attempts to inflate the number of books. Taking the approach of Less is more, a big single event was planned in X-Men: Age of Apocalypse. In that story, Professor X's son travels back in time to kill Magneto but travels to a time when Xavier and Magneto were friends and Xavier takes the bullet for Magneto. This causes the assassin to disappear and Magneto to form the X-Men in memory of his late friend. Apocalypse rises up and takes over the world. The Status quo would be restored. The event was a critical and financial success, cementing the position of Bob Harras at the company.

At Valiant, things had changed, Shooter had stepped down and Jim Lee had taken his place as Editor-in-Chief. Lee happened to be good friends with Steve Massarsky. Ironically their companies were fierce competitors, but a deal was made, speculated to have been planned by Shooter. Todd McFarlane, taking too long on Spawn brought in veteran comic writers and legends in their own right to write the series instead. This included Alan Moore, Dave Sim(known for the series Cerebus the Aardvark, which crossed over with Spawn), Frank Miller(who crossed over his run with Batman), and Neil Gaiman. Each legend wrote one issue. Gaiman naturally wrote about what it was like to be Spawn and the Cosmic scope of the Universe. Gaiman introduced two loved Spawn characters, Angela and Cagliostro, as well as the idea that there had been many Spawn throughout history. McFarlane loved this as it expanded the franchise. Gaiman was happy because this meant that due to the way Valiant was run, all royalties would go to him. McFarlane had specifically enforced this as he had suffered with characters he created. McFarlane had drawn a scene of Marvel and DC characters in Hell, trapped because they couldn't enjoy the freedom that Spawn and his creator did. It would be hypocritical for McFarlane to not allow Gaiman to keep the rights to his characters, and yet that is exactly what McFarlane did.

McFarlane argued that Gaiman was a work for hire and that since he had drawn the characters, they belonged to him. The two sued each other and the likes of Lee and Shooter backed Gaiman on this. Since there was now bad blood between Gaiman and McFarlane, it was decided to let McFarlane go. Gaiman was seen as far more worth keeping on, having penned the Sandman, considered one of the greatest comics of all time. Gaiman didn't feel comfortable continuing the story of Spawn, so for awhile it would be tossed about, eventually landing in the lap of Mike Mignola(leading to a crossover with Hellboy). Gaiman at least had permission to write Cagliostro and Angela.
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Lee and Shooter had a plan to gather up all the looser companies, most of which had a problem with scheduling. It was discovered that Valiant saw story as the most important thing while most of the artists that split off to form their own companies saw Art as the most important element. Massarsky was a businessman. Lee was an artist, so they saw their craft as being the most important element. Massarsky wanted the sales Valiant had and Lee wanted to draw beloved Marvel characters. The two were curious about the thoughts other creators had. A conversation with Rob Liefeld revealed that to him Story was an afterthought. McFarlane, present at the meeting is said to have mumbled under his breath that it was more like an afterbirth(or something that sounded like that when mumbled). Liefeld thought that he was being called an afterbirth and believed Shooter had made the comment(he was sitting beside McFarlane). Liefeld quit and shortly after McFarlane was let go for his feud with Gaiman. It was no secret Liefeld and Shooter hated each other, but now McFarlane and Liefeld had both left once again. Malibu Comics was happy to have them. Shooter was finally convinced from this experience that there was no pleasing everyone and let them leave, making no effort to keep them onboard. The two returned to McFarlane's owned Malibu Comic Company, rebranding it to Image Comics.
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Deathmate Prologue

Massarsky and Lee began to collaborate on potential crossovers which would hopefully bring Valiant back into Marvel as an ulterior motif. Lee also collaborated with McFarlane to create an event known as Deathmate. Valiant writers hated working with Image because they carefully ran the company while Image was still new and fresh. Lee was able to get Liefeld, Wilce Portacio and Mark Silvestre onboard with his storyline. The pitch involved The Valiant character Solar and the Wildstorm character Void engaging in a battle that accidentally merged both universes. Rather than numbers, the crossover was individual stories held to a single issue. Two for Valiant, Two for Image. one written by one writer. Lee and Jim Shooter would each write one on the Valiant side, McFarlane and Liefeld each wrote one on the Image side. Bob Layton also did some writing when Liefeld fell behind. When it became evident that Liefeld couldn't finish his work on schedule, Layton went to Liefeld's house and stayed there, being overall rude to Liefeld and refusing to leave until Liefeld finished his work. Layton inked his project soon after in his hotel room. Liefeld was booted off the project but since McFarlane had no one to replace him with the cracks in Image began to show and so it became a fully Valiant book, while released on time it showed the incompetence of Image and their chronic lateness,a recurring problem that would only get worse.

Stan Lee was campaigning as the face of Marvel, trying to since the late 80's, get Marvel projects out there. A Daredevil Animated series and a live action Black Widow TV Series were the latest examples brought into the world thanks to his efforts. New World had sold Captain America and the Punisher to Cannon films, resulting in terrible films. Still there was money to be made in expansion. Junk Bonds were introduced by the Marvel company. New World had begun to crank out films and that led to their collapse as it was clearly quantity over quality. Marvel also bought several sticker companies and began to eye out Toybiz. All this to become something as big as Disney. Perlman would buy companies just to balance out the rest of the money. One sticker company Panini, signed a deal with Disney to produce exclusive sticker books for them. A baseball strike occurred that was just barely resolved by the time of the World Series, which would have endangered Marvel's ownership of several Baseball card companies, namely Fleer, was also bought.

There was just one problem, Valiant's success, Comics Crossovers selling extremely well, the sales of Actions Comics #1 for Millions of Dollars fueled the idea that novelty and gimmick covers were the way to go. Speculators bought them up. The problem was large amounts of Comics were not being sold. Comic companies did not want competition and so the two biggest Comic distribution Companies: Diamond and Capitol(who owned all the Comic Shops between them) shut the door on competition, preferring to keep. the competition small. The number of Retailers got so big and many were in it for the money, threatening the entire industry. Demand for the products wanted began to fall and so the Gimmick was abandoned when it became clear that was what was causing this. Hit the hardest by this was Image, which could never meet the deadlines. Publishers cut down on the number of books.

The industry was also hit quite hard and Marvel nearly collapsed. Marvel had been the chief force behind the cover gimmick and now it was about to tnearly destroy the company. A phone system was set up when the industry began to collapse as a result of the Comic companies rapidly losing money. So many calls came in to the Marvel server that the computers and servers, kept in a room without ventilation, caught fire, burning almost the entire building down. Diamond, one of the chief Comic book store companies signed a deal with DC for exclusive distribution rights. Their rival Capitol, appealed towards the other companies Dark Horse, Image and Valiant and convinced them to sign exclusive rights to their books, helping to balance the industry. Perlman tried to buy another company that made Basketball cards and mixed it with Fleer, hoping to somehow balance out the mess. This didn't balance out the company and instead things got worse. Perlman announced Marvel Mart to sell exclusive Marvel merchandise but this threatened to worsen the crisis. It was Capitol who proposed a solution. They suggested that Capitol become the main distributor of Marvel just as Diamond did with DC. Capitol would willingly give up control of Valiant, Image and Dark Horse to Hero's World, a smaller distributor in the midwest, who could handle the smaller load compared to the big two. A full on monopoly would actually hurt business so a tense balance was achieved instead. It wasn't much and things were about to get so much worse. This was beginning of what is often erroneously called the Bronze Age Collapse.
Jesus, don't know how to react to this, hell, I didn't even knew about OTL's version.
 
Transformers: Heroes(2007-2011)
Ok. This is the last Transformers bit. I'm not even a big Transformers fan, but Transformers: Animated had a lot of What Ifs to touch on. Funny enough the next franchise covered will also be a Hasbro property with a pretty popular Comic Series to boot.

Transformers: Heroes(2007-2011)
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Several Character designs from Transformers: Heroes.

Transformers: Heroes(OTL Transformers: Animated, though less stylized in art style) was released by Cartoon Network as a new installment, serving as the animated series of the franchise meant to tie into the Films. The series follows a group of Autobots led by Optimus Prime(Corey Burton) and consisting of Ratchet, Hot Rod, Red Alert, and Bumblebee. Rodimus Prime also appears, with strict rules to not portray him as a jerk from Hasbro. Of the main Autobots, Hot Shot was the last one to receive an action figure and was released alongside a triple changing Megatron(robot, Jet, Tank). Michael Bell would voice Prowl and Swoop, roles his previously voiced.
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Megatron with a Katana

The Decepticons consisting of Megatron(David Kaye), Blitzwing, Lugnut, Blackarachnia, and Starscream, have a somewhat rough design, implying they have stitched part to themselves(compared to Sid's Toys from Toy Story. Megatron also included a Katana. Blitzwing is introduced as an insane Transformer that could change into anything. While this is kept on, he only retains a handful of his most prominent transformations. Blitzwing was also given a German accent due to his voice actor Bumper Robinson assuming a German accent fit due to his name.

After the the Autobots won the war with the Decepticons, both teams of Autbots and Decepticons crash onto Earth. Starscream betrayed Megatron with a bomb, which destroys him but scatters his remains on Earth, which are discovered by scientist Isaac Sumdac. Sumdac is fooled into thinking Megatron is an autobot and begins repairing him. The Transformers reside in the city of Detroit in the year 2050 and befriend the young girl Sari. Peter Cullen appears as a John Wayne type character that inspires Optimus Prime to adopt leadership qualities. Lugnut's praise of Megatron leads the Decepticons to gain human followers and Ratchet becomes suspicious of the technology jump on Earth caused by the machines created by Isaac Sumdac. The "Allspark" in the series is instead named "The Cube" changing its shape as well to fit the name. The Final Episode of the Season had Megatron be resurrected by the Cube and violently beat the Dinobots, before the Cube is destroyed in an explosion that scatters the pieces of the Cube.
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A Theme Concept for a Box Set

The Second Season introduced more Transformers. This included Wreck-Gar, voiced by Eric Idle, the episode featuring him and John Cleese as Angry Archer, had the two teaming up, had many Monty Python references(a giant foot crushing them, "This is an Ex-Transformer" , Wreck-Gar losing limbs but continuing to try and fight, convincing some humans he is the messiah, etc) (OTL Eric Idle was the first choice but was unavailable and so Weird Al was brought in with several Weird Al references inserted). Villains introduced included Prometheus Black, a separate entity from Meltdown. Black formed an alliance with Colossus Rhodes and Stilettonote, a character who previously appeared in the Comics. There's also crime boss Lazarus Undershaft, who employed Ninja, and the Wrecking Crew, who wielded powerful construction machines and waged war against the robots who stole their jobs. New Autbots such as Sentinel Prime, Ultra Magnus and Jazz were introduced. Sentinel Prime being far more antagonistic than OTL, becoming an outright villain. Wildrider being from Rodimus while Breakdown being from Lockdown. Of note is the introduction of Starscream clones, which gradually evolved into their own characters, such as Slipstream and Skywarp. This is shown when Cyclonius is revealed to be Skywarp from a dark future.

Season 3 largely dealt with Sari discovering they weren't entirely human but part Cybertronian and the Decepticons lost in space attempting to find a way back. Cliffjumper, was framed for being a Decepticon spy in the episode "Autoboot Camp" and went on the run. The season also killed off Beachcomber, who was killed by Shockwave. New characters included Jetfire and Jetstorm, voiced by Eric Bauza).

Season 4 introduced several new changes in the status quo. Ironhide and Jazz were introduced as new Autobots, replacing the otherwise occupied Bulkhead and deceased Red Alert. The Decepticons gained Soundwave and a rival to Megatron in Dirt Boss. The series also killed off Ultra Magnus, who died from the injuries from Shockwave. Sari remained on Cybertron and befriended a group of younger Autobots that previously appears in the episode "The Return of Blurr" that included aspiring detective Nightbeat, Hosehead, a Canadian accented Autobot, and Siren, which possesses a Sonic cry. Bulkhead had remained on Cybertron to repel attacks on the Energon farms by Decepticons and Strika's Team Chaar, which grew to include Mindwipe(a mind controller that can also control dead Decepticons), Blot(capable of turning into a monster akin to the Generation I Terrorcon's Beast mode and a Cyberton ground vehicle) Sky-Byte(based on the Predacon from the 2001 Robots in Disguise but has the same body shape as Lugnut, and Dr.Scalpel(unlike his OTL plan he does not have his Revenge of the Fallen appearance).

Megatron finally gained his triple changer body, now a Jet and Tank. He breaks out of Trypticon Prison and moves the city of Kaon to Earth, threatening all life on the planet by building a machine to extract Energon. Hot Shot received a Sports Car form with an action figure. Optimus obtained a new "Powermaster" body. Blackarachnia returned with a new appearance akin to their Beast Wars depiction with yellow skin and an army of predacons which included Waspinator(voiced by Scott McNeil, who voiced the character in Beast Wars ), infero and Antagony(who appear as trans-organic Fire Ants), along with Primal Major, a failed clone of Blackarachnia in the episode "Trukk vs Munky!"(a jab at fans complaining about the changes to the franchise in Beast Wars, which changed Optimus Prime from turning into a Truck, to turning into a Monkey). Their siding with the Decepticons was shown in flashback. Starscream was revived by his clone Slipstream, who was gathering her own team of Decepticons, which would become an ally of the Autobots.
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Primal Major

One episode featured Bulkhead and Sari entering a Mirror Universe version of the Transformers: Animated characters, based on the Shattered Glass Comic Series, wherein the Autobots and the Decepticons had their roles reversed. There was also the Minicons of Kaon sabotaging all the machines in Detroit in a nod to the film Gremlins and Ratchet and Captain Fanzone thwarting this. The Autbot Cosmos trying to deliver a message to Optimus but crashing on Earth and scanning a prop Flying Saucer from a B movie set.

Of the returning cast, Lugnut, Blitzwing, Shockwave, Sunstorm, Ramjet, and the Stunticons, were captured by Sidewipe and Cheetor and take place in a prison break in "The Stunti-Con Job,". Thundercracker, Skywarp, Soundwave, Laserbeak, and Meltdown also returned. Mixmaster and Dirt Boss returned, having a reunion with Scrapper. Dirt Boss had Scrapper, Mixmaster, and the Constructicon clone Skipjack work on a project: Devastator and battle the Decepticons over the Energon on Earth. The Decepticon Bludeon was transformed into a Skeleton Pirate(instead of skeleton Samurai). Sentinel created the Powermaster weapon and attempted to kill Megatron with the Cube. One episode had the deceased and now ghostlike Red Alert jumping from body to body trying to warn the autobots of a coming threat caused by Sentinel's actions. He jumps into the bodies of Wreck-Gar, Sliptstream and the Constructicons

New antagonists include a human group called S.T.E.A.M. (Saving The Earth And Mankind), who are against modern technology and instead use Steampunk-style weaponry. Bumblebee also had a mystery in which he is targeted alongside Bulkhead, Ironhide, Sentinel, Waspinator(who received his own toy prior to his transformation known as Fugitive Waspinator, which was largely a repainted Bumblebee) and Shockwave. Rattletrap is also targeted by Autobots and Decepticons after being stranded on Earth. Other plots involved recovering the remaining pieces of the Cube shattered in Season 3. One episode depicted a war between the Constructicons and Decepticons for Energon deposits. The Constructicons also had a fight with the Dinobots. One episode has Another episode introduced the character Antagony and Inferno appeared in the season as techno-organic ants created by Blackarchnia, who was growing an army of Predacons(and resembled their Beast Wars appearance with yellow skin). The Season Finale. involved Megatron threatening the entire Earth and Optimus Prime recruiting heroes and villains alike to defeat him.

The show continued to a 5th and Final Season. Sideswipe was introduced as a mole(Afterburn OTL). The season finale revealed Sari's origins.

Other Toys introduced as a result of the series include.

Freeway Jazz, a silver repaint of Jazz made to resemble his film counterpart.
Mercenary Swindle, black repaint.
Thundercracker.
Vortex Blurr, gray and black repaint.
Toxic Oil Slick, with a more accurate design to the cartoon.
Mudbuster Bulkhead, more black paint
Goldfire Grimlock, repainted gold.
Electromagnetic Soundwave, a repainted Activator Soundwave made to represent Soundwave’s giant white avatar from the episode “Human Error”.
 
"Funny enough the next franchise covered will also be a Hasbro property with a pretty popular Comic Series to boot"

G.I. Joe? Great timing, considering that the Snake Eyes movie came out recently.
 
My Little Pony?
Yup. It’s comic run is actually one of the bigger things to cover before I finish comics but I’d need to do the show first like I did with Sonic and Transformers, and after that Archie and some others. Though this will mostly be about turning Gen 4 into a much more dramatic show along the lines of Avatar or Gravity Falls.
 
Yup. It’s comic run is actually one of the bigger things to cover before I finish comics but I’d need to do the show first like I did with Sonic and Transformers, and after that Archie and some others. Though this will mostly be about turning Gen 4 into a much more dramatic show along the lines of Avatar or Gravity Falls.
All of your TL's, that I've read are very interesting and a my little pony as avatar is honestly intriguing
 
All of your TL's, that I've read are very interesting and a my little pony as avatar is honestly intriguing
That’s more of a statement that the show will be a bit more intense at times than OTL. Maybe Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Star vs the forces of Evil or the Owl House would have been better comparisons.
 
You were luckier than me...my older sister was EXACTLY in the age range for the original (i.e. in diapers) when it came out and she was obsessed with it.

Fortunately I grew up watching the GOOD cartoons.
 
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